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"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario) 09/16/2019 at 08:01 • Filed to: news

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UAW strike started today.

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And the Teamsters has said they wouldn’t cross the strike line and won’t deliver vehicles for GM.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 08:06

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Not sure why I can’t edit my post, but I meant to add the Teamsters article link as well

https://www.foxbusiness.com/industrials/teamsters-refusing-transport-gm-vehicles-solidarity-with-uaw

pip bip - choose Corrour > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 08:13

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how long do you think it will go on for?

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/16/2019 at 08:17

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My guess is once dealer inventory levels start getting too low.

https://www.autonews.com/sales/automakers-inventory-high-uaw-walks-job

Right now they are rather high for GM and across the board. If I remember right most dealers want to be around 40-50 days of inventory. So once dealer levels start dropping below that I bet we’ll start seeing something happen.

Maxima Speed > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 08:20

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See? I was right! The Mid engine corvette IS a myth. It will never happen 

PS9 > Maxima Speed 09/16/2019 at 08:35

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Of course it won’t happen. Chevy can never compete with Porch.

Montalvo > Maxima Speed 09/16/2019 at 08:35

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That would be the exact opposite of what I need... I will get my car even if I have to go to the assembly plant and build it myself.

nermal > Maxima Speed 09/16/2019 at 09:03

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The workers refuse to build it auto-only. They’ll resume to work for a manual version. 

vondon302 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 09:03

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Well the strike made my ride into metro Detroit this morning a breeze.

If it lasts longer than a week I’ll be surprised but I didn’t expect a national strike I thought they’d just close a truck plant or 2.

Still waiting for Jones to get indicted too and wait till Trump starts tweeting about this. Grab your popcorn everyone. 

nermal > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 09:09

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It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Both parties are arguing the semantics of plant “ closings” vs “un-allocated” plants. 

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > vondon302 09/16/2019 at 09:10

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I’m actually thinking the strike will last until dealer inventories start getting short. I think GM may have purposely presented a deal they knew wouldn’t be approved, this way they get to temporarily “close” plants down without being the bad guy in the news. 

boredalways > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 09:15

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UAW has a deal in place with Ford & FCA already, which says to me that GM is not being straight forward with them. Then again, GM has made one boneheaded decision after another since bailed them out: Cadillac in general, the ELR, cancelling the Volt, having no modular platforms to build on, discontinuing brands and models, the continued bastardization of legacy model names, etc.

And yet, they have to survive because of a multitiered global supply chain would collapse.  Then right back to recession or worse.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > nermal 09/16/2019 at 09:20

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“ Close: (of a business, organization, or institution) cease to be in operation or accessible to the public, either permanently or at the end of a working day or other period of time.”  

GM ceased operations and has no plans for the plants, un- allocated my ass lol.

Un-allocated implies (in my mind at least) they are ceasing operations temporarily to the then allocate that to something else afterwards.

vondon302 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 09:20

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I don’t know about that they temporarily clase plants alot. Everyone seems focused on dealer inventory but in a national strike no dealer parts are being delivered or R and d. Seems expensive way to reduce inventory but who knows.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > boredalways 09/16/2019 at 09:22

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GM is not being straight forward with them

I said this in another reply, but I almost feel like GM’s proposal was purposely bad to force a strike. Dealer inventories are pretty high right now for GM and across the industry in general. This way t hey get to shutdown production for a bit without being the bad guy in the news.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > vondon302 09/16/2019 at 09:24

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They have done it in the past

https://www.fox19.com/story/10240450/gm-to-temporarily-shut-13-plants-cut-production/

boredalways > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 09:27

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Agreed. Side note: I started my post more than 90 minutes prior but equipment malfunction and a meeting forced me to wait to finish it.

Mondays amirite?!

vondon302 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 10:17

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Yeah that’s was a temporary layoff not a strike. Happened alot in the 90s when the Uaw had a job bank.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > vondon302 09/16/2019 at 10:20

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That’s what I meant, GM has closed plants temporarily in the past. It’s just a guess though, who knows what actually is going on. It very well could be GM just being GM and simply screwing up.

vondon302 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 10:22

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Or the Union , who knows how all this is going to go is the truth.

jimz > boredalways 09/16/2019 at 10:43

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UAW has a deal in place with Ford & FCA alre ady,

IIRC it’s not a “deal” so much is they’re continuing under extension of the current contract until a deal is reached with GM.

jimz > vondon302 09/16/2019 at 10:44

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Well the strike made my ride into metro Detroit this morning a breeze.

you must have not been anywhere near I-94.

vondon302 > jimz 09/16/2019 at 10:46

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696 ;)

boredalways > jimz 09/16/2019 at 10:54

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OIC

For Sweden > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/16/2019 at 11:15

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“How can we idle our plants to clear excess inventory without giving union employees paid leave?”

“I have an idea.”

jimz > boredalways 09/16/2019 at 12:21

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U812?

Bandit > boredalways 09/16/2019 at 12:50

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You’re simply wrong. The UAW chose to negotiate with GM first as to use that negation as a template for contract talks with FCA and Ford. In the interim the current FCA and Ford contracts have been extended until such time that GM negations are concluded.